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郁闷,金刚票房掉得真快

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我也觉的票房无法作为一个衡量电影好坏的标准,但起码可以指明大众的接受程度,体现其商业价值,反映一定的问题.
另外我所说的"不爽"也的确是在"魔戒"基础上的要求,其实它可以算是中等甚至偏上的作品,但我想说的是整体思路有问题,或者不恰当说,导演在以剧情为重点表现和以动作为重点上举棋不定,后面的动作场面很震撼,但和影片开始时大篇幅的交代,人物的描摹是不相衬的..因此我说的是整体问题....并不是某个角色的问题...
老兄,你不能只盯着那个美国票房呀?金刚的票房是全球性的,无论是影片质量还是票房,《金刚》都远超《纳尼亚》,不过如果两个片让我选看一个的话我可能会选看《纳尼亚》,因为它是童话+魔幻+战争,比较有新意,而《金刚》这类型的特效大作自从《黑客帝国》一直到《魔戒》三部曲几年时间了,虽然说都很精彩,但也没有什么突破,山珍海味吃多了也觉腻呀,而《纳》刚好是一盘开胃的青菜,正好迎合了美国人的一时口味。
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Originally posted by 光影声色 at 2006-1-18 01:05:
我也觉的票房无法作为一个衡量电影好坏的标准,但起码可以指明大众的接受程度,体现其商业价值,反映一定的问题.
另外我所说的"不爽"也的确是在"魔戒"基础上的要求,其实它可以算是中等甚至偏上的作品,但我 ...
这就是翻拍片的弊端,导演不想重复旧作,而加入一些自创的故事情节和人物,但往往是融合得太过牵强,让人觉得特效出色,而倍衬的人物故事则让人‘不爽’
两部影片我都不怎么看好。
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Originally posted by 菜菜仔 at 2006-1-18 02:34:
老兄,你不能只盯着那个美国票房呀?金刚的票房是全球性的,无论是影片质量还是票房,《金刚》都远超《纳尼亚》,不过如果两个片让我选看一个的话我可能会选看《纳尼亚》,因为它是童话+魔幻+战争,比较有新意, ...
wow~~这可错了,The Chronicles of Narnia的国外票房也要高于King Kong哦

   现在The Chronicles of Narnia的国际票房也比King Kong要高2千多万,而且就象你说的,该片的影响力和全球公映的范围都低于King Kong,却能得到比King Kong更高的票房.
   这也能说明点问题吧

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相信金刚的票房在中国能超过<<纳尼亚>>
可能大家觉得见到猩猩画的时间太长了!
很不错的电影!!

我的观点,《金刚》与《纳尼亚传奇》

《纳尼亚传奇》,非常平庸的作品,真的找不出什么出采的地方,导演也没什么想象力,剧情更是超级老套,毫无想象力,凡看片子比较多的人对这种剧情都是司空见惯的了。当然这片不算差,只是感觉一般

有时候票房不能说明问题,再说《金刚》票房不太好也与他片子太长有关,假如只有《纳》的长度,票房或许是另外一会事



还有一点是分级制度,《纳》是PG级的电影,国外过节,家长带小孩子看电影,无疑会优先选择《纳》,《纳》的出色票房很大程度上依赖这点。《金刚》好象是PG-13吧?


别小看分级制度,分级制度会极大程度上压缩观众群。举例:经典的matrix就是R级电影,这就是为什么matrix如此经典的情况下,票房却不是完全如他的本身价值那般出色。

[ Last edited by Yodaa on 2006-1-18 at 20:04 ]
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别小看分级制度,分级制度会极大程度上压缩观众群。举例:经典的matrix就是R级电影,这就是为什么matrix如此经典的情况下,票房却不是完全如他的本身价值那般出色。
哈哈,这个分级我已经在前面说过了,但我也说过这只是个客观原因,分级真的回"极大程度"的压缩观众吗?会吗?只要电影好,分级根本不会是问题.
     就拿The Matrix来说(申明:我绝对是The Matrix fans NO.1),分级R重要吗?The Matrix照样全美票房1亿7千万,全球票房近5亿傲视群雄(票房就和现在的King Kong差不多,而且那时还是在1999年)对于一部投资6千万的中等影片(其实当时华纳完全把他当B级片投资的),分级重要吗?有多少PG-13的"大片"败在他手下?当同样是分级R的The Matrix:Roladed上映3天票房达到9千7百万的时候,(成为当时3天票房最好的R级片),分级已经不是问题了,只要你电影好
   
     另:我现在是完全以票房在讨论,并没有在说The Chronicles of Narnia和King Kong一定是谁好谁坏,应为每人喜好不一样,不好强加于人
      所以请一些King Kong迷不要误解

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纳尼亚票房不错还有个原因就是因为它是那个谁的魔幻小说改编过来的,这会引起很多小说迷前来观看,而金刚是翻拍片,不能否认还有一群是1933年版的忠实fans,这些人可能就会拒绝看金刚,总之,金刚票房没有预期好是存在太多方面的原因了
     不过没关系,电影好就行了
纳尼亚可能小孩子更喜欢一些,没什么太沉重的东西,而且原著有一批Fans,故捧场的多。金刚在剧情上没有什么悬念,其中的感情部分小孩子未必看得懂喜欢(我外甥喜欢黑客,但对金刚感觉一般)。

但我认为金刚的票房应该属于慢热型,口碑好,生命力强,反正我是准备看第二遍的。

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当然,纳尼亚我也会去看得。
电影拍得确实不错
彼德优雅的叙事风格和出色的电脑特技结合不输给指环王
特技是为说故事而用的
这部电影作到了
因为技术下包装并不是空洞的躯壳
看看imbd上一个网友给的6个原因
1) TOO UNORIGINAL.

Everybody already knew the story, either from the 1933 or the 1976 version. Also, the Jurassic Park films, Mighty Joe Young, Godzilla, Dinosaur, and other dinosaur movies/tv-series preceded it in recent years, so that the audience had already been satiated with dinosaurs and giant apes. This is a major reason why the box office results on the first days after its release were disappointing. Relatively few people were truly excited by the prospect of yet another King Kong (or dinosaur) movie. Remember also that the name of King Kong had been rather tarnished by the 1976 movie, and its disastrous sequel King Kong Lives, while the movie is not based on a popular novel or comic book series, so the built-in fanbase of Kong is rather small.

2) TOO LONG.

For many people, it's a major investment to go see a three-hour film at the theater, excluding commercials and previews. For King Kong, you'll have to leave home right after dinner, while it may be close to midnight by the time you get home. The length of the movie does not seem to fit the simplicity and familiarity of the story. It's not (thought to be) an epic story, like Titanic, LotR or Dances With Wolves. The excessive length of the film is a complaint found in many negative audience assertations, and even in many positive critical reviews of King Kong.

3) TOO UNBELIEVABLE.

If you look at the user comments on IMdB, you'll see that about a third of the reviews is highly negative. A common argument shared by many reviewers is that King Kong (2005) stretches the boundaries of believability too much. Not everyone shares this opinion, but it's evident that the word-of-mouth from general moviegoers is mixed, because many viewers were looking for (and expecting) a different, more realistic type of action drama.

4) TOO VIOLENT.

In addition, King Kong is too violent (and long-winded) to bring your youngest children along. Note that young children are the ones to whom the fairy-tale/fantasy aspects of the 2005 reimagining of King Kong may actually appeal the most. So the movie failed to draw in families with young children, who form the largest group of cinemagoers during the Christmas holiday period.

5) TOO HYPED.

The publicity campaign was designed to create a large hype prior to the release of the film. Before anyone had actually seen it, King Kong was already announced as the biggest box office hit of the year and a likely oscar candidate. As it's also a remake of a corny seventees film (in the eyes of the general public), the hype seemed untrustworthy to many people, to say the least. Then King Kong opened to disappointing box office figures and mixed audience reviews, while the oscar buzz soon faded. As a result, the initial hype has actually worked against the film. Audiences who have not seen King Kong yet, have lost faith in the movie. The Chronicles of Narnia has instead profited from a much quieter publicity campaign, in which word-of-mouth proved better than the initial buzz (including mixed reviews from critics) suggested. This is an important reason why Narnia has shown better legs than King Kong, after its opening performance was also slightly better on account of the built-in fanbase of the novel.

6) TOO OVERAMBITIOUS.

In my opinion, King Kong would have been much more successful at the box-office, if it had cut a significant part of the first hour of drama, reduced the violence level (and the number of innocent lives killed by Kong), and had been designed and quietly advertised as a genuine family movie for the Christmas holiday. All of the problems mentioned above would have been avoided, since children do not mind the inherent unoriginality and unbelievability of the (outdated) subject matter, and those kids would have dragged their parents along, even the more skeptical ones. But the filmmakers decided to go for an epic, oscarwinning drama instead ... and failed, because a King Kong remake simply never had the potential for such a feat, in spite of all the talent involved in the making of this picture. Somewhere along the way, Peter Jackson lost sight of the fact that when he fell in love with the original King Kong film, he was a highly imaginative child himself, and that at its fairy-tale heart, King Kong is (or at least over time has become) a children's story. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Originally posted by jbx523 at 2006-1-20 15:21:
看看imbd上一个网友给的6个原因
...
小声说:好象是IMDb吧??

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